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Ask HN: If a t-shirt includes a logo (FB, AT&T) is it automatically infringement?I want to make a t-shirt that shows my dissatisfaction with some companies and also in support of others. Basic example for simplicity:

"Vote Yes DuckDuckGo"

"AT&T Sucks"

Is it infringement to use a logo/symbol on a shirt as fair use as long as it is clearly not representative of the companies service/product? If a logo is not useable would text equiv; e.g. AT&T instead of their branding, be useable?

Does it matter if the t-shirt is for sale vs. personal use?

Thanks.
,Ask HN: What's an Example of a Successful Rebranding?There have been many rebranding in the past of big companies that have largely received a negative response from its userbase and the community at large. Examples include Slack's recent logo/color/design overhaul, DropBox and its new radical color combinations, Windows 8 and its Metro design language, etc.

Is this "backlash" over new designs just a user's reflex action to change? Or have they actually been detrimental to the company (due to mass unappeal)?

In continuation, what are examples of "good" or successful redesigns that were positively accepted by, if not all, a majority of the users?

Thanks!.
,The Full List of Tech Companies and Startups That Celebrated Marriage Equality,Launch HN: Parade (YC S20) – Launch your company without hiring a designerHey HN! We’re Alex and David, the founders of Parade (https://getparade.com). Parade uses software to guide founders through early branding decisions, including designing a basic logo, selecting fonts, selecting colors, and defining their company’s overall aesthetic.

A lot of early stage founders are incredible engineers, but lack the ability to make things look “right”. We’ve seen a bunch of our friends launch products to no reception, some of which seemed due to poor design decisions (like, making buttons hard to find or a landing page that looks like it might steal your credit card).

Two years ago, two of my closest friends started a company, raised a small round, and spent tens of thousands of dollars on their initial branding. That was a substantial percentage of their funding, and then their brand entirely changed once they learned more about their customer. After I saw them waste a ton of time and money on this, I realized that it ought to be possible to build software that could have done just as good of a job as the design agency. At the core of it, the designers asked my friends a bunch of questions about how they want their company to be perceived by customers, offered them colors and fonts and a design aesthetic that conveyed those feelings, and then created a mockup of a website that incorporated those elements. So, I decided to build software to do just that.

With Parade, we have taken a traditional brand design interview and turned it into a self-serve software product. You answer a series of questions about how you want your brand to be perceived and receive design aesthetic suggestions based on them. We use machine learning to identify design elements (such as fonts, colors, layouts, use of color, density of information, line and button styles, and visuals) that project the way you want your brand to feel, then present them to you as simple choices. To power the suggestions, we collected training data from both designers and non-designers to understand what emotional reactions these design elements evoke. Because of this technology, we are able to identify the design aesthetics that you want without having to iterate repeatedly or spend hours searching for inspiration. After you make your choices, we use the math behind design theory (such as an algorithm to expand one color into a range of colors that accounts for the difference in perceived contrast based on hue, saturation, and lightness) to flesh out your brand [0].

Right now, after onboarding, you are able to access all of your design elements in a style guide for free through the dashboard. It includes your colors and your fonts, plus a place to download your logo and icon in a few colors. You can see an example of what this looks like here: https://app.getparade.com/hackernews/style-guide or here: https://app.getparade.com/hooli/style-guide. This is similar to the output startups get from a first engagement with a designer, which helps you set up basic, consistent styling for your website and social media profiles.

At this point, we’ve helped thousands of companies create their brands, including YC-backed companies like WellPrincipled (https://www.wellprincipled.com/), Enable (https://www.enable.us/) and MeterFeeder (https://www.meterfeeder.com/).

The next step beyond style guides would be to automatically generate brand assets—things like pitch decks, landing pages, and social media posts. We're working on that. We haven't completely automated it yet, but we are able to create these assets with very rapid turnaround time. Once we get it fully automated, we plan to add subscription features that enable founders to make ready-to-use assets themselves.

In the meantime, we run an agency, serving customers using our work-in-progress software. It’s different from a traditional agency, though—while traditional agencies spend many days asking you about how you want your brand to look, seeking inspiration, and iterating based on your feedback, we are able to capture what you describe through our onboarding survey and create assets with your design elements algorithmically. We are able to deliver most designs within 48 hours, and almost all of our customers have been satisfied without any iteration. Right now, a lot of the algorithmic design work happens via an in-house Figma plugin, which we plan to move onto our platform in 2022 and open up to self-service.

Something that’s surprised us while working on this: we’ve found that our users don’t always believe that their choices are really great. Design is intimidating—you’re aware that there is some psychology of color and also some color theory rules, but aren’t exactly sure what they are. You’ve built things in the past that just didn’t look quite right—how can you be sure the choices you made on Parade are good? Oftentimes, designers will even use words to make themselves seem to know some secret you don’t. We’re trying to reassure our users by surfacing more of the science behind the suggestions we make, and to make sure we encode rules that prevent certain common mistakes.

We would love to hear your thoughts, questions, concerns, or ideas about what we’re building - or about your experiences with automating design in general. We appreciate all feedback and suggestions!

[0] See https://www.w3.org/TR/AERT/#color-contrast for math on color contrast, or https://alienryderflex.com/hsp.html for a good writeup on perceived brightness..
,The Most Powerful Colors in the World ...And How You Make The Next OnesAs a YC W10 startup, we were lucky to have dinner with Zuckerberg and I asked him afterwards why he chose that blue for Facebook... Cause he's color blind. Not a majestic response about how color influences mood, buying habits, etc.

He used a color that was personally best for him. And a lot of the top brands in the world now, started in garages & workshops... where the branding research consisted of a couple rounds 'what if we...' before a name was born and then a logo & design.

My favorite example of this is Mercedes. The brand now stands for luxury cultivates a significant vibe... but why did the founder call it that? Simply, he named the company after his daughter... and now people name their daughters after the car!

A lot of YC companies get greif for their names (most.ly the ly.ly ones) but how much does a name / brand have on the actual product being successful.

I think it can have an influence, but at the end of the day... the quality of what you build will determine its success.

With that in mind, my fellow hackers & founders... from a guy that runs a website about color... Be more adventurous with your colors. Have some fun..
,Launch HN: Slingshow (YC W20) – Easily build custom virtual events and webinarsHello world, my name is Nilay. My cofounder Jorge and I founded Slingshow (https://slingshow.com/) and we're super excited (and nervous!) to finally launch on HN. Slingshow helps you build custom virtual events for your community. Think Zoom, but with a modern and flexible user experience that seamlessly flows between different ways of interacting with larger and smaller groups.

Last year, we were in YC W20 pivoting through several ideas, but then the pandemic hit. Suddenly, our YC batch was just a series of monotonous Zoom calls. We lost the magic of the social dinners, random conversations, and catching a speaker afterward for a personal chat. We quickly recognized that while Zoom was great for small meetings, the functionality and UI/UX made large group events unorganized and passive.

During the pandemic, many novel and sometimes gimmicky video platforms emerged targeting the social niche. But every organization hosts more than social events. We built Slingshow to have no learning curve for traditional use cases like panels and presentations while seamlessly incorporating newer social formats. We think the best virtual event formats are still in their infancy and are unique to every use case, so we wanted to create a flexible tool that would let organizers build their own experiences.

We were inspired by companies like Notion, Coda, Retool, and Airtable, which work in the UI/UX paradigm of creating functional modular building blocks. This means choosing a few simple, valuable abstractions like a table or a button and letting users mix and match these components to meet their needs. In our case, we’re starting with four fundamental blocks that organizers use to plan a schedule: Tables for free-flowing networking like interactions, Rooms for concurrent presentations, a Stage for classic webinar like presentations, and a Call to Action block for redirecting to external websites like forms, activities, etc.

Using our blocks, one of our enterprise customers (Fivetran) holds their standard webinar on our Stage block and then shifts into the Rooms block where attendees can choose to speak with the panelists. Another customer held a dating event that started with a Stage to introduce the event, then switched to Tables of 4, then 3, then 2 with different prompts to create more intimate conversations. We also have other customers hosting unique product launches, happy hours, live podcasts, cohort-based classes, and multi-day hackathons. While some platforms offer similar functionality, they’re heavy conference platforms with a large learning curve. They also require days of work to create specialized assets and often involve trained intermediaries like event organizers and planners.

We’re not focused on conferences but rather on simplicity, and Blocks help us achieve that. They're versatile and help simplify the organizer's event creation process by hiding complexity. Blocks are also a simple way for us to add new formats in the future. By just by creating a schedule with Blocks, Slingshow automatically generates the event page with registration, a cover image, and the entire attendee experience. Add a logo and brand color, and we'll automatically theme the entire event to make it feel like your brand.

We've chosen to launch late as nothing else matters if the video isn't stable and reliable for first-time users. One speaker failing to connect could ruin an event leaving a bad impression on everyone involved. We’ve spent several months working with early customers to gracefully handle errors and give helpful error messages for all the complexity of video: weak network connections, old browsers, mobile devices, firewalls, SDK edge cases, permission issues, etc. Depending on the use case, we also switch between multiple WebRTC video infrastructure providers. And lastly, following the lead of companies like Discord and Tandem, we built our backend using the Phoenix framework in Elixir because of its excellent support for WebSockets.

We still have a long way to go, but we feel confident with what we have and are ready to open up to a broader audience. We'd love to hear your feedback and experiences with the many virtual events you've probably experienced over this pandemic. Thanks! :–)

You can try out Slingshow for free here – https://slingshow.com/..
,Ask HN: Do startups get permission to use company logos?It's common to find the logos of websites and publications that have covered, or even mentioned, a startup as part of their homepage design. It's also common to find the logos of companies that have used the product. To what extent is it necessary, and typical, to get permission before using a logo?

If TechCrunch mentions your startup, can you display their logo in an 'as seen in' page without risk of some legal action? What about CNET? What about a print magazine or newspaper? Do startups always ask clients before listing their customers -- it's common to see even large companies like Microsoft or Amazon listed when it's likely only a small team or employee used the product..
,Ask HN: I'm 17. Should I drop school for YC S12?I'm extremely interesting in applying to Y Combinator for this summer. The only problem is that I'm still in Cegep (a two-year college for Quebec students before they go to university - I'm 17) and so if ever I get chosen, I still have one more year remaining to complete my program (International Baccalaureate in Pure & Applied Science).

I don't think I would drop it, because I ultimately intend to go in computer science at Stanford. Therefore, I would have to leave the Bay Area at the end of August in order to move back in Quebec and stay there during the year and come back in the summer when I'm finish my program.

I would still have time to work on my startup during the year, but at a much lower pace (2-3 hours each night and 8-12 hours on weekends). The other guy on my team (he's 17 too) is in a much less intensive program then me and he could continue working almost full-time on the startup.

Yet, if you guys tell me that I would absolutely need to continue working full-time on my startup, I will consider dropping school more seriously. It would be hard for me, but if it's really necessary I could do it. The thing is, the program I'm currently in, International Baccalaureate, is a program that I must complete in two years. The special thing about this program is that we are the same group for every class (we started 40 now we're 28). If I drop/fail a course, I'm out. And I then need to go in regular science. If ever I were to be selected for YC, the choice would be quite hard as I said, because I really enjoy my program, I'm fond of the other students and I appreciate the teachers a lot. And I also fear that I won't go back to school if I enter the startup world.

At least, I'd like to finish my program and then maybe take a break from school to focus on my startup. My program requires a lot of effort, it's considerably more challenging than regular science, and I just don't see myself dropping it when I'll be halfway through it, but still there's a lot of chance I would - it's 50/50. I'm constantly debating in my head whether I should drop or stay, but I guess I'll wait to see if I'm selected for YC to make a final decision. Ultimately, I feel I would drop my program, because YC is such an amazing opportunity and also because I have a very good co-founder who is a long-time friend of mine. He would definitely succeed in convincing me :P

Moreover, I'm the only one writing code. My co-founder (who's currently studying in Business Management) will be working on the marketing (posting on the blog, making videos showcasing the app, posters in schools and other places, talking with other companies so that they use our app, etc.) I also have a graphic designer that will not be directly involve in the startup but that will do my logo and help me design icons, textures, etc.

Without even knowing anything about my idea (I can tell you though that even if I'm the only technical founder, it's not an overwhelmingly complex app and I am confident that I could manage the coding alone. All features would get implemented during the summer. During the year, I would only make little changes to the user interface and update the content of the app, but I probably wont implement radically new features, that is if I choose to stay in school. The goal during the year would be to get as much users as possible and thats exactly what my co-founder would be working on full-time. Complex new features would get implemented in the following summer.), because really I don't want to be chosen for my idea but rather for my team (I've got this interesting idea that I want to work on, and I like it because I would actually use the app, and actually, Ive got a bunch of startup ideas (Im the kind of guy that always has tons of ambitious projects going on and new ideas in mind: I want to code apps, make feature films and crazy edits, learn new monologues by heart, run marathons, travel around the world and learn new things!), but this particular one is not too complex to implement, yet if it turns out that I choose to do a completely different project, then so be it! Anyway, I dont think the idea I apply with matters that much (but it ought to be good obviously), because anybody could apply to YC with a similar idea and develop a similar app. But would they really be as much passionate as us about the app and as much caring about the users, would they achieve to convince companies of using it, would they convince people of using it? I know we would. My point is that Im expecting to be chosen a lot more because of my team than because of my idea. (If you're interested to know what my app is though, email me (frabrunelle@gmail.com) or skype with me (francisbrunelle)). I want to build useful products and it thrills me that with the internet millions of people could be using them! But what thrills me even more is that if ever I do YC, I would be hanging around with dozens of other developers that are in the same situation as me. I want to discuss and debate about ideas with those developers. It would be an insanely great and enjoyable experience. And thats exactly why I want to do YC: for the experience.), do you think I have any chance of getting selected? Or should I wait for next summer, when I will have finish my program? The thing though is that I will still continue to go to school (Stanford, MIT, McGill or somewhere), so again I will have the same problem as the one I have right now.

I truly enjoy school but the real reason I want to go in c.s. at Stanford is to meet other c.s. students and start a startup with them. I'm also interested in studying in theatre, so I'm really not dropping school soon. But I don't want to wait after university to finally apply for YC, I feel ready now. The reason I want to go through YC is to meet interesting people, discuss ideas and because I'm sure it would be a tremendous experience. If I don't get chosen, I will still develop my app over the summer, but I just think YC is an outstanding opportunity and that I ought to at least submit an application. I will continue submitting applications every summer until I'm chosen.

P.S. As a developer, I'm not that skilled, but I always manage to figure things out by myself and find a way to do what I want. If I'm stuck, I don't easily give up. Nevertheless, I'm more of an idea guy. I'm currently following tutorials from http://www.raywenderlich.com/store since December in order to get more familiar with the iOS 5 SDK. When I'll finish them, I'll look at the Parse SDK (http://parse.com) and then at the Facebook iOS SDK (https://developers.facebook.com/). I will then code an app similar to FML but it will be called 'You know you're in IB when...', IB being the program I'm currently in. I will integrate the Parse SDK and the Facebook iOS SDK in this app. It's a simple app that I want to do for testing purposes and also because I know that my other classmates would actually use it and that fact motivates me a lot. I will then start working on the real app that I want to do for my startup. My goal is to have a working app with bare minimum features for the end of May so that I have something to show if ever I move to the Bay Area. I'm working toward this goal 2-3 hours everyday and 8-12 hours on weekends..
,A slight twist on MVPI came up with a system that I like to use to test ideas. It's similar to MVP but a bit more practical IMO.

After I come up with a product idea, I work on the brochure that I'll actually send to potential customers. This gets me to list the main selling points early. But being a sales document, it typically puffs up the product and lists everything that is cool and that I think will add value, so its a more a VP than a MVP.

To make this system work I have to decide what features need to be built BEFORE I feel comfortable sending out the brochure. This forces me to decide what needs to be done before I can approach the customer. Say for example I'm creating a service which helps companies attract interns by listing their profile on an online directory of companies who offer internships. My brochure might mention that they will get a detailed profile page with their logo and a contact form. I can easily send the brochure on the basis that the website is launching in two months time. So the website at this point is not a MVP. However, if I list as a selling point that I have a readership of 20'000 readers per month, and if I consider this selling point to be so important that I don't think it's worth sending the brochure until I have this, then I a have the first element of the MVP - to get a readership of 20'000.

This means that I probably do need the website as an MVP so that I can get the readers, but it gives me a bit of a purpose now when launching the website. I'm not launching it to impress companies yet, I simply want the readers. Then I can send out the brochure even if the important features are not built yet.

So the creation of the brochure forces me to decide what elements are crucial right now, and which elements are crucial for phase 2. It gets me in front of customers testing my concept in the shortest possible time..
,Ask HN: What Elements Has Your Perfect Pricing PageHi,

I am working on our future pricing page and looked at 303 websites and came up with a list of best practices for our pricing page.

I wanted to share my finding and hopefully you can add yours?

- Call to action headline that matches the unique selling points mentioned on the homepage

- Subheadline will give details on trial, no credit card needed, amount of users in system (if the over 10,000), sense of urgency using get started in 60 seconds. Product positioning (what does the product do). Value messaging

- Plan that focus on different markets you address

- Website design Features, Pricing & Plans, About, Contact and remove the rest (including login) form the menu so there not to many links.

- Trust element top right (phone-number will work well there)

- All plans above the fold

- Free plan in bottom right of plan (if your bootstrapped, but if you have VC money and Freemium is your strategy, place free as first plan)

- High to low or low to high, 62% of SaaS companies have low-to-high and with lack of research I guess thats the best. (We will go and test these once we add the pricing page)

- Badges (user logo’s) under plans as trust elements (make them gray so there not distracting)

- Communicate the differences not focus on the similarities of the plan

- Scanable (not to long page)

- Clear pricing (good contrast)

- Use color on background of plans to keep focus on each plan. Mouse over background on horizontal is a nice feature.

- Make bigger plan feel bigger using a visual element that becomes bigger with the growing plan.

- Keep in line with website design

- Important features in F eyetracking line (price, plan differences and sign-up button)

- Mention USD not $ (Austrailian and Canadian dollars look the same)

- Testimonial under plans

- Explain how things work billing, 30 days, free under plans

- Mouse over on features

- Little amount of links (you do not want them to click away)

- Impeccable grammar (in my case huge problem :-) with easy fix... let someone check it

- Call to Actions Orange

- Blue color gives trust we might use these on plans that are not the preferred plan (need to test this)

- Green associates with wealth (try to add green check-marks on items that are simular)

- Use full screen width for plans (no right blocks with sign-up or text

- Repeat 14/30 day trial under sign-up buttons so they know what they sign-up for (<button: Sign-Up> for 14 Day Trail)

- Add some credit-cards logo's or payment processor logo to pricing page as trust element if you do not have a lot of well known clients. You can also add SSL seal if your just starting and have little trust elements available.

- Social Proof (twitter accounts, positive tweets, testimonials etc. all help (under pricing plans)

Referrals
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/10/13/pricing-tables-showcase-examples-and-best-practices/

http://vandelaydesign.com/blog/design/pricing-page-trends/

http://www.reedge.com/303-ideas-for-pricing-pages.html

http://blog.reedge.com/best-pricing-practices-or-conventional-wisdom.html

http://www.sixteenventures.com

Love to hear more! Leave you comments below. Thanx

Dennis van der Heijden

Reedge.com (Conversion Rate Optimizer Tool: Tracking, Testing, Funnels and Personalization).
,Ask HN: This is weird, right?Met this dude at a meetup here in DC and he said he was looking for early stage investments, wanted to hear pitches. I started a few phone conversations with him and got that unmistakable vibe I was getting my ego stroked by a salesman. He seemed way too interested in moving through his process (which keeps coming back to him mentioning offshore outsourcing) without really seeming to know much about my project. That is certainly due to me not explaining it well, but it seems like a legitimate investor would have passed on me pretty early on, rather than keep telling me "everything sounds great, let's move on to the next step in the process".

I start trying to look up his "portfolio companies" to see what they are like, see if I can't contact any of them and get an idea of what sort of contribution he made for them. I don't know what I'd get out of it, I at least wanted to know what size of companies he's investing in.

And in the process, I find this. This is his site: http://www.3siholdings.com/#!portfolio/cee5

The first logo is his own company. The second logo isn't even a company, it's the logo for a technology incubation initiative from our governor. The third logo, I did a reverse image search on and all of the links, for several pages, are just like this:

http://www.healthstylecatalogue.com/#!hc-providers/cee5

http://www.scprivatecapital.net/#!portfolio/cee5

http://www.acisup.com/#!portfolio/cee5

They all have completely different "teams". What is this, some form of multi-level marketing scheme with which I'm not familiar?.
,Ask HN: I made a Word Cloud Y Combinator Shirt. Any Interest?Yesterday a fellow HNer made a YC shirt http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2232951 and I saw quite some interest. I was wondering whether fellow HNers would be interested in a word cloud rendering of the Y Combinator logo, like these:

Orange on White: http://i.imgur.com/V7poK.png

White on Orange: http://i.imgur.com/nKXJE.png

The words are from -- can you guess? -- Paul Graham's 'Hackers and Painters' essay (which I happen to be reading). Other possibilities include words extracted from Hacker News articles, names of YC companies, Paul Graham's complete essays, etc.

Is anyone interested? If there is enough interest, I'll make a real one (fine tune the words, fonts, etc). Let me know either by replying to this thread, or emailing me directly (find it in my profile), specifying the quantity and style (WoO or OoW). It would be reasonably priced (~$20 + S&H). I'll do it via Zazzle if quantity is limited, or bulk order if there is enough interest. Let me know. Thanks!

P.S. The artwork was made with a tool (Tagxedo), not by hand. I did write the tool myself (Tagxedo, http://www.tagxedo.com) which took a long time :D.
,6 things that could ruin Twitter (and 5 that won't) 1. Buying friends. CNN announced Friday that it had acquired @CNNBrk, a Twitter feed that serves up links to CNN breaking news stories. Now that people are rewarded for selling followers, an entire underground economy will probably emerge. Perps will use dirty tricks to build a large number of followers, then sell those accounts to big corporations. The end result will be a large number of accounts that suddenly turn into sources of Twitter spam, and a large number of users who feel they've been tricked.

2. Username squatting. When I started following @CNNBrk, I thought I was following CNN itself. I didn't learn until yesterday that it was just some dude who grabbed the CNNBrk name, copied the CNN logo and served up links to CNN content. CNN's acquisition of @CNNBrk showed everyone that username squatting on Twitter pays. Expect to see millions of people signing up using trademarked IP, hoping to cash in later.

3. Forgetting to grow a business model. The trouble with not making money is that Twitter won't be able to keep up with demand. Which means more fail whales, slowdowns and problems. (The fail whale is a picture that's displayed on Twitter when the system breaks, usually because of excess activity.)

4. Invasive advertising. Ads on Twitter would be OK. Paying to not see ads would be OK, too. But ads that cover the screen or otherwise delay posts could harm Twitter badly. Twitter is about speed and brevity. Big ads that are fine elsewhere won't work on Twitter.

5. Spam. The good news about Twitter is that everything is instantly searchable. The bad news is that everything is instantly searchable. Stories abound about a user whining about some product only to receive a quick e-mail from the company they complained about.
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Companies are using Twitter's great search tools to find out in real time what people are saying about them. This could all be further automated. I'd hate to see an entire ecosystem forming around the triggering of spam to your e-mail in-box every time you tweet something. This spam could also be used as a form of 'punishment' that stifles criticism. Another form of spam is unwanted ads sent as direct messages. Once this is automated, our direct-message in-boxes could be filling up with garbage. Spam ruined e-mail, and it could ruin Twitter.

6. Bugs and viruses. Twitter allows links, and links could send you to the same kind of sites and trigger the same kinds of downloads that initiate the downloading of Trojan horses onto your system. Twitter needs to stay on top of this before it becomes an industry.

5 things that wont!

1. Celebrity culture. Sure, Oprah and Ashton now dominate the Twittersphere. But to say celebrity tweets, celebrity gossip and celebrity trash-talk will ruin Twitter is to not understand the very nature of the service. Twitter is the one form of communication where you can individually choose who you listen to. This is different from, say, comments on Digg or even articles in the newspaper, where you have to wade through muck to find gold. Sure, we'll be hearing more than we want to hear about celebrities on Twitter. But we'll be hearing about it on TV, in blogs, and in magazines and newspapers. Those are the things that will be ruined by celebrity twittering. But on Twitter itself, we can just turn that stuff off.

2. Media hype. Twitter is overexposed in the media. But that just wrecks media, not Twitter. There is no such thing as unwanted communication on Twitter. If you chose to follow someone, by definition you want what they tweet.

3. Marketing and PR. Again, missing the point. Twitter will be great for people who want to get marketing information and interact with PR people (I'm one of them. I'd much prefer to tweet with PR people than exchange e-mail). But for those who don't, they can just stop following. And because of that, Twitter rewards marketers who communicate in a straightforward and appealing way and punishes anyone who uses some kind of exploitation. The marketing industry and Twitter will improve each other.

4. Big business. As Twitter's usage grows, of course, companies are going to build massive followings by doing things like raffling off expensive goods to followers. But this won't affect your own personal tweets any more than McDonald's ads affect how you make dinner. Corporations will be over there doing their thing, and you'll be over here doing yours. It only affects you if you choose to participate.
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5. Google. OK, Google could ruin Twitter. But I don't think it will (if it acquires Twitter). Google would most likely grow the service even more rapidly, and keep its functionality pretty much the way it is, as they have done with other acquisitions. Plus, there are many ways Google could improve Twitter, including integrating it into Profiles, Chat and Gmail.

So if you're a Twitter user, enjoy its many great qualities while they last, because they may not. However, if the geniuses running Twitter remain faithful to the original vision (as other companies like, say, Craigslist, have done), then Twitter might stay great and become even greater..
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The MLconf workshop on large scale machine learning is a meeting place for both academia and industry to discuss upcoming challenges of large scale machine learning and solution methods. GraphLab is Carnegie Mellons large scale machine learning framework. The workshop will include demos and tutorials showcasing the next generation of the GraphLab framework, as well as lectures and demos from the top technology companies about their applied large scale machine learning solutions.
The workshop will be held on Monday, July 9th in San Francisco. Register today to enjoy early bird registration fee!

Talks

GraphLab Version 2 Overview- Carlos Guestrin, Carnegie Mellon University
Large scale ML challenges - Theodore Willke, Intel Labs
TBD Alexander Smola, Yahoo! Labs
Bloom: Disorderly Programming for Distributed Systems Joseph Hellerstein, UC Berkeley
Large scale ML learning at MapR Ted Dunning, MapR Technologies
Large scale ML at Pandora Tao Ye, Pandora Internet Radio
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Cassovary Graph Processing System Pankaj Gupta, Twitter
TBD Amol Gothig, IBM Watson
Machine learning in One Kings Lane Mohit Singh, One Kings Lane
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Posters/Demos

Green Marl graph processing framework Dr. Sungpack Hong, Oracle Labs
Machine learning benchmark framework Nicholas Kolegraff, Accenture
TBD Prof. Alexander Gray, Georgia Tech
Alpine and MADLib Demo Steven Hilion, Alpine Data Labs
Disk-based Massive Graph Computation Aapo Kyrola, CMU

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,Ask HN: Compatible with $big_vendor_productHi,

I am thinking about turning a customer product of mine to a saas business. The software configures other devices/programs and manages access to them.

My question:

Am I allowed to write something like '$my_product is able to configure $big_vendor_product' and put the logo of the big vendor next to it? Am I allowed to use other companies logos in my presentations? Or is it a grey area? What do you do?

Thanks for your help..
,Surf's Up Dog, a small company thinking outside the box (www.surfsupdog.com)Small companies like Surf's Up Dog (www.surfsupdog.com)are thinking outside the box when it comes to promoting their dog leashes. They are sponsoring an athlete in to 2015 Raleigh, NC 1/2 Ironman. 70.3 miles of logo exposure. Many athletes run and bike with their dogs so they are hitting a target audience in addition to the 1000's of people watching the race. What clever ways have you promoted your product or service?.
,Ask HN: Why don't companies hire IT freelancers directly vs. body shopping?The current state of affairs: In a lot of countries, companies don't hire freelancers directly but they go via an intermediate IT service company.

This type of companies, the so-called body shopping agencies will basically post a job add in some forums, call you to ask your rate, forward your CV by email after adding a logo,
call you to setup an interview,send a contract to sign and charge 15% to 25% for the life of the contract to the customer.

More often than not, in my view they mostly act as a parasitical intermediary with no added value after the initial contact.

Some create an internal culture where they throw a fancy party from time to time, where some manager says that ''we are not a body agency like the others, blah blah', job rotation procedures that don't exist in reality, etc.

My main question is: why don't companies hire freelancers directly? They could have the same person for a reduced margin of 15% to 25%, that offsets largelly the administrative costs.

They probably can't keep the person for 10 years because the law would say they need to hire the person as an employee. But one to 3 year contracts and then rotate would work for example?

Why do companies keep feeding this human trade industry, that does not seem to be so pervasive in other professions.

Is this changing on some countries, do companies usually work directly with freelancers?.
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Designed for project management and real-time collaboration, APITable has built-in API and amazing features like Infinite Cross Link, enterprise-grade permissions, BI dashboard, and ample templates based on more than 1,000 real cases.

The API feature, in particular, allows users to develop programs online and create freely. Using programming languages like Python, JavaScript, with a couple lines of code, everyone could read, batch, and write back data in real-time. Connecting to other systems, generating plug-ins for a variety of functions, you could complete them all in one place.

One of the most useful and favorable features is the Infinite Cross Link, which allows you to interrelate different tables with a few clicks. For example, you have table A for recording information of companies that you are working with, which contains company names, locations, logo, and so on. Also, you have table B of contact person from corresponding companies, which includes their names, phone number, and email.

Add a new field in table A, change the field type into Infinite Cross Link, and then choose table B in the record. Now you can freely select the contact person for each company as you need. More surprisingly, if you make some changes in table B, information that has already linked to table A will change accordingly in realtime. With a few clicks, you can arrange your data productively and flawlessly.

Our free version will be released shortly. If you are interested, contact us via info@apitable.us. Please tell us about what kinds of projects you are working on and what are you expecting to do with vikasheet..
,Ask HN: Who designed your logo?Been so disappointed by results of 99designs I wonder if YC's companies are sharing contact details of some talented logo designers.

Thanks in advance for sharing..
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